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Greg McKeown and Diana Chapman (#740)
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Friday, May 24, 2024


This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #355 “Greg McKeown — How to Master Essentialism” and episode #536 “Diana Chapman — How to Get Unstuck, Do “The Work,” Take Radical Responsibility, and Reduce Drama in Your Life.”

Please enjoy!

Bios of guests may be found at tim.blog/combo.

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#740: Greg McKeown and Diana Chapman

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  • [05:26] Notes about this supercombo format.
  • [06:28] Enter Greg McKeown.
  • [06:49] What is non-essential?
  • [07:46] Overcoming the planning fallacy.
  • [13:30] The problem with taking ownership of someone else’s problems.
  • [15:44] How to avoid committing to the unsustainable.
  • [21:26] Three rules.
  • [25:28] The personal quarterly offsite.
  • [33:05] Enter Diana Chapman.
  • [33:22] A transformative gift.
  • [36:56] The Drama Triangle.
  • [43:36] The whole-body yes (or no) and how it can serve us.
  • [46:06] Diana guides an experience to help pay better attention to our whole-body yes (or no).
  • [54:36] Observations made during the exercise and how Diana recommends using this inventory.
  • [1:01:39] Fostering playfulness for those who mute their desire to celebrate.
  • [1:08:28] Diana’s “black belt in practicing candor.”
  • [1:09:37] Diana’s thoughts on loving pressure and how to bring it into a relationship.
  • [1:13:24] Applying loving pressure to people you don’t know well.
  • [1:15:08] Diana’s guidance on introspection leading to perspective shifts; using Byron Katie’s “turnarounds.”
  • [1:17:48] Diana guides me through a turnaround.
  • [1:23:58] A turnaround’s purpose is to identify and embrace alternatives, not invalidate the inspected belief.
  • [1:29:06] The importance of introducing the somatic into the process; suggestions for difficulty with this step.
  • [1:31:47] The role of the witness in this process.
  • [1:33:54] Walking the line.
  • [1:35:40] Welcoming the opportunity to learn from the experience, even if it’s not preferred.
  • [1:37:35] Alternative tools for dysregulation in the moment.
  • [1:39:31] Risks Diana and her husband Matt took to keep their relationship vital; who initiated the first difficult conversation.
  • [1:45:11] How Diana figured out who she needed to be during this time.
  • [1:47:11] Navigating decision points together as a couple.
  • [1:49:42] Examples of commitments from The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership.
  • [1:53:22] The Mind Jogger app and how Diana uses it with the commitments.
  • [1:55:55] Assessing self-awareness in hiring interviews applied to non-job situations.
  • [1:57:53] Books most gifted.
  • [1:59:35] Parting thoughts.


Connect with Greg McKeown:

Website | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Connect with Diana Chapman and the Conscious Leadership Group:

Website | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube


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