Friday, August 21, 2020

Technologist, serial entrepreneur, world-class investor, self-experimenter, and all-around wild and crazy guy Kevin Rose (@KevinRose) rejoins me for another episode of “The Random Show.” In this one, we wax poetic over wildlife friends and foes, the folly of facing off against Mike Tyson (even in his 50s), slow donkeys, universal basic income (UBI), breaking the pandemic pajama routine, smoked meats and Wi-Fi grills, Zen and the art of Kevin maintenance, how to hike without being hunted, hoity toity beer, pandemic investing, and much more.
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Want to hear the last Random Show Kevin and I did? Check out our conversation here in which we discuss exotic meats, quarantine exercises, dog adoption, decadent desserts, and much more.
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
The Kevin Rose Show | Oak Meditation | Zero | Instagram | Twitter
- Past Episodes of The Random Show | The Tim Ferriss Show
- American Black Bear | National Geographic
- How to Train an Otter | Aquarium of the Bay
- Kevin’s Raccoon Toss | YouTube
- Grizzly Bear | National Wildlife Federation
- Bear Spray Demonstration and Safety Tips | Yellowstone Forever
- ElimiTick Pants | Amazon
- GORUCK | The Rucking Company
- Weighted Vests | Amazon
- The 4 Hour Body: An Uncommon Guide to Rapid Fat Loss, Incredible Sex and Becoming Superhuman by Timothy Ferriss
- CrossFit Games
- What is Judo? | Online Dojo
- Spaceballs | Prime Video
- “I’m Back!” Mike Tyson Hitting Pads at Age 53 | Global Boxing TV
- OMG! Mike Tyson Still Terrifying on the Mitts! Throws Explosive Combinations Training for Comeback | Global Boxing TV
- The Dangers of Boxing Injuries | Verywell Fit
- Early Onset/Younger-Onset Alzheimer’s | Alzheimer’s Association
- Where Evel Knievel Never Soared: A Wallenda Flies Over the Grand Canyon | Indian Country Today
- Indian Python Swallows Goat Whole | Truly
- Best of Parkour and Freerunning | StuntsAmazing
- Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. Exhibition Fight Delayed | CBS Sports
- Mike Tyson on Smoking DMT | ESPN
- Coronavirus (COVID-19) Events as They Happen | WHO
- Predicting Hospital Capacity: Why to Act Early, How to Think About Lag Time, and a Model You Can Use | tim.blog
- Emergency Technique: How to Increase Ventilator Capacity 2–4x in 10 Minutes | tim.blog
- How to Support Healthcare Workers Now — Plus Urgent Suggestions for Uber Eats, Hilton, Amazon, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show #416
- Coronavirus Vaccine Tracker | The New York Times
- Anti-Vaccine Activists Latch Onto Coronavirus To Bolster Their Movement | Kaiser Health News
- Getting Vaccinated for the Flu This Year Is Particularly Important, Who Officials Say | CNN
- Who Really Stands to Win from Universal Basic Income? | The New Yorker
- 7 Great TED Talks for Basic Income | Matt Orfalea, Medium
- OpenAI API
- OpenAI’s Latest Breakthrough Is Astonishingly Powerful, but Still Fighting Its Flaws | The Verge
- OpenAI’s New Language Generator GPT-3 Is Shockingly Good—and Completely Mindless | MIT Technology Review
- “I Actually Think GPT-3 Could Change Everything” | Chris Sacca, Twitter Twitter
- Grand Theft Auto V | Rockstar Games
- Siri | Apple
- Timeline: A Day-to-Day Recap of Portland Protests | KGW
- The Original Muck Boot Company
- How to Take a Digital Detox during the COVID-19 Pandemic | BBC Worklife
- Pocket Casts
- Apple Music
- Spotify
- Audible
- Sonos
- Pandora
- Waking Up with Sam Harris
- Strong Workout Tracker
- Dexcom Continuous Glucose Monitoring
- Aura
- Less Alcohol Tracker
- Zero
- Lumosity
- MasterClass Online Classes
- Personal Capital
- Financial Times
- The Wall Street Journal
- Wealthfront
- Clarity Money
- Barron’s
- Simplify Financial Planning
- Home | Apple
- Traeger Grills
- Maui Nui Venison
- The Axis Deer, and How They’re Impacting Parts of the United States | Wide Open Spaces
- Crowd Cow
- ButcherBox
- Belcampo
- Heart Rate Variability: A New Way to Track Well-Being | Harvard Health Blog
- The Breathing App | Eddie Stern
- Normal Blood Oxygen Level: What’s Normal for Me? | Healthline
- Parasympathetic Nervous System | ScienceDirect Topics
- Lyme Disease | CDC
- Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor | ScienceDirect Topics
- Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain by John J. Ratey and Eric Hagerman
- Henry Shukman: The Mysterious/Unsolvable Zen Koans | The Kevin Rose Show
- What Is a Koan? | New World Encyclopedia
- One Blade of Grass: Finding the Old Road of the Heart, a Zen Memoir by Henry Shukman
- San Francisco Zen Center
- Mountain Cloud Zen Center
- The Surrender Experiment: My Journey into Life’s Perfection by Michael A. Singer
- How To Meditate: Zazen Instructions | Zen Mountain Monastery
- Transcendental Meditation (TM)
- Why Taking Ayahuasca Is like Having a Near-Death Experience | New Scientist
- Quickening Scene | Highlander
- Pique Tea | Amazon
- Laird Superfood Coffee Creamer | Amazon
- WhatsApp
- onX Hunt App
- The Beginner’s Guide to Intermittent Fasting | James Clear
- Top 250 Rated Beers | BeerAdvocate
- Kentucky Brunch Brand Stout | Toppling Goliath Brewing Co.
- My Beer Collectibles
- Pliny the Elder | Russian River Brewing Company
- SR-71 | Toppling Goliath Brewing Co.
- Julius IPA | Tree House Brewing Company
- Geocities Archive Mirror
- Trial By Fire | Vimeo
- Saddle (Kura) | Japanese | The Met
- Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
- Peloton
- 5-Bullet Friday
- Billionaire Chamath Palihapitiya on How To Invest in This Crisis | Pomp Podcast #256
- Shopify
- Index Fund | Investopedia
- Square Cash App
- Tesla
- Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd. (TSM) | MarketWatch
- The PlayStation 5 vs. Xbox Series X: Which is Better for You? | The Washington Post
- ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ Launches Exclusive Partnership with Spotify | Spotify
- Twitch
- Amazon Web Services (AWS)
- Stock Pick | Investopedia
- Should You Buy Gold Or Bitcoin? | Investopedia
- iShares Gold Trust (IAU)
- Bitcoin vs Ethereum — Which is Better? | Benzinga
- What an ETF Is and How to Buy Them | Investopedia
- Mad Max | Prime Video
- Investing for Everyone | Robinhood
- 20-Year-Old Robinhood Customer Dies By Suicide After Seeing A $730,000 Negative Balance | Forbes
- Hugh Jackman on Best Decisions, Daily Routines, The 85% Rule, Favorite Exercises, Mind Training, and Much More | The Tim Ferriss Show #444
SHOW NOTES
- Checking in from our respective dungeons and bear caves, where we’re learning to either coexist with the local wildlife or fend it off when necessary. [04:56]
- I want to run, but it bothers my knees. This is what I do instead. [08:04]
- Kevin’s in his 40s and he can’t cough without tweaking his back, but Mike Tyson’s about to go back in the ring at age 54. Would I fight the former heavyweight champ for $200 million? [13:25]
- How have Kevin and I been coping with pandemic life since our last podcast together when lockdowns were just beginning? Is there light at the end of the tunnel, or are we in for a “slow donkey?” [22:08]
- Thoughts on the merits of universal basic income (UBI) and dwindling job opportunities in an increasingly AI-automated world. [27:42]
- How the Roses are staying sane and “breaking the pajama routine” in pandemic-stricken and civil unrest epicenter Portland, and what I’ve gained by changing from an urban to a rural setting. [33:29]
- Why Kevin and I have largely disconnected from social media and nagging apps during this time, along with the exceptions and rules that still keep us somewhat in touch with the grid without being drained by it. [35:29]
- Our parallel lives continue on another front: the Traeger grill. Here are the meats we’ve been responsibly enjoying with its assistance. [41:16]
- Why cooking is a great hobby for breaking up the monotony of self-quarantining. [49:53]
- HRV and breathwork practices I’ve been experimenting with, and how I hope they’ll help me overcome some longer-term fatigue issues that haunt me. [50:50]
- Kevin’s most recent forays into meditation and Zen. [56:21]
- A peek at Pique tea for peak performance. [01:11:53]
- How I keep from getting shot as an accidental trespasser when I go hiking in the boundless wilderness. [1:15:00]
- Kevin shares his pandemic intermittent fasting — and beer critique — regimens. [1:18:53]
- I’m not much for self-congratulation, but here’s the one time Kevin’s seen me splurge on something for myself. [1:26:45]
- Neither of us is a registered investment advisor, and this is not investment advice, but this is how we’ve each been thinking about and personally navigating the stock market during this pandemic. [1:31:07]
- Kevin’s thoughts on buying gold vs. cryptocurrency. [1:52:20]
- Parting thoughts. [2:00:55]
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